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There's where I've been. It took me just over 4 hours for this hike and it's now about 9:10 am (Arizona doesn't go on daylight savings time! Except the Indian reservations and federal lands!) I was the slowest up and down but since it was my first time to the top I wanted to go slow and stay in control. There are many places where, if you trip or slip, you'll fall a long ways! Some people were actually jogging the trail! (Of course, not the rock climbing parts!)

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